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Douglas Berry ([personal profile] gridlore) wrote2005-06-13 04:44 pm

OH, give me a break!

Creating a Christian flag for God and country

Inspiration: With publicity from 'The 700 Club,' the designer of a religious and patriotic banner prepares for a busy Flag Day.

COLORA - Marcia Thompson Eldreth sees in the United States a Christian nation, inspired by Scripture and dedicated to propositions conveyed in biblical prophesy. She asks: Why not a U.S. national Christian flag?

"Our nation was based on Judeo-Christian principles," Eldreth said. "Blessed is the country whose God is Lord."

She was sitting in her Cecil County kitchen here the other day, sharing the story of how she came to design and arrange for manufacturing and selling a national Christian flag that since last year has gained national attention on The 700 Club, a religious news magazine television show hosted by, among others, the Rev. Pat Robertson. The taped segment is scheduled to appear on the program for a second time Tuesday, Flag Day.

Eldreth figures this year's show will again inspire a rush of orders for the flag, which shows an American bald eagle in flight, holding in its beak a quote from the New Testament, in its talons a bloody crucifix.


Evidently, the First Amendment and the Treaty of Tripoli don't exist in her world.

She figures on setting up a makeshift call center in the living room and kitchen, just as she did last Flag Day. What a day that was.

Phones were ringing steadily on six lines, Eldreth said, when a thunderstorm rolled in over the house.

"I turned on the prayer and worship music because it started to feel like a spiritual attack," Eldreth said. She recalled stepping to the front door in time to see lightning strike a utility pole across the road: "I saw a ball of blue fire come off that telephone pole."

The bolt knocked out the phones until the next morning. Eldreth understood it as a sign.

"I took it as spiritual warfare," Eldreth said. "I grinned when the fire come off the pole." She said she thought, "Thanks for the affirmation, Satan."


So, when your flag-selling scheme gets knocked out by a thunderstorm (traditionally the provence of God in the Bible) it's Satan. Maybe he's upset at her violation of Exodus 20:4

"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth."


Christian flag
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[personal profile] kshandra 2005-06-13 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Yer code's b0rken - you tried closing the IMG tag with /a. I've been doing that a lot myself recently....

[identity profile] autographedcat.livejournal.com 2005-06-14 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
Good grief, that's hideous.

[identity profile] caraig.livejournal.com 2005-06-14 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
Having just read Article X of the Treaty of Tripoli, I am struck baffled by the repeated insistence that the US is based on 'Christian values.'

[identity profile] robertprior.livejournal.com 2005-06-14 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
Um, why?

Look at how she cheerfully ignores the Bible, except where it reaffirms what she already believes. (Doug's right -- smiting folks is Yahweh's shtick, not Satan's.) So naturally ignoring treaties (which weren't really part of the founding of the country, now were they? and even if they were, it was obviously the work of secular humanist anti-Christian liberals...) is easy.

OK, yes, I'm putting words into her mouth. But she sounds like all the fundie Baptists I know, who make up their minds first and mine the Bible for supporting quotes afterwards.

[identity profile] collie13.livejournal.com 2005-06-14 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
Don't you mean Article XI? Here's a fascinating discussion of it (http://www.govsux.com/1797_tripoli_treaty.htm).

[identity profile] caraig.livejournal.com 2005-06-14 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, right, yes! That's it.

How wierd that the original Arabic version of it was different.

[identity profile] collie13.livejournal.com 2005-06-14 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
Make a way-cool RPG game scenario, dont'cha think? ;)
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[personal profile] kengr 2005-06-14 02:45 am (UTC)(link)
Supposedly the Postal Awful delivered a package to you at 3:18 today. :-)
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[personal profile] kshandra 2005-06-14 06:07 am (UTC)(link)
Indeed they did. Dude, that rocks.
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[personal profile] kengr 2005-06-14 06:30 am (UTC)(link)
Well, when I saw it in the art show, it *screamed* "Doug needs this". :-)
Did you notice the title?

[identity profile] gridlore.livejournal.com 2005-06-14 03:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, they did! On to Redmond!

That completely rocks. Thanks you!
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[personal profile] kengr 2005-06-14 08:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Viva la Revolucion!
Viva la Penguins!
:-)

[identity profile] soldiergrrrl.livejournal.com 2005-06-14 06:48 am (UTC)(link)
OMFG that's ugly.

Ew. Ew. Ew.

Even if I thought that way, I'd design something that looked good.

Ew. Ew. Ew.

What about the existing Christian flag?

[identity profile] jilara.livejournal.com 2005-06-16 06:18 pm (UTC)(link)
There already IS a Christian flag. I know this because I went to a Lutheran religious school for a while, and every morning we put our hands on our hearts and pledged to this nice flag with a red cross on a blue field (and some other details): "I pledge allegiance to the Christian flag and to the Savior for which it stands. Our Savior, crucified, risen and coming again, with life and salvation for all who believe. Amen."
But fundies think they're special, so obviously they can't use one that's already in use in godless other faiths, because Jesus really doesn't want to associate with those OTHER so-called Christians, anyway.
Sort of like lightning can't be a sign from God that he's pissed with them. Must be that other guy.

Re: What about the existing Christian flag?

[identity profile] gridlore.livejournal.com 2005-06-16 06:47 pm (UTC)(link)
They mention that flag in the article, with reasons why it wasn't acceptable.