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Douglas Berry ([personal profile] gridlore) wrote2003-11-10 09:51 am

AQOTM

Wow. Over in alt.atheism, we have two Quote of the Month contests. One for the atheists, and one for the theists who plague the group. The TQOTM is usually spectacular examples of stupidity. The AQOTM is usually in response to the theists. Read the winners here

This month, I have been nominated (and seconded) by two different sets of people!



> "For those that do not feel they NEED a savior .. let me ask you ..
> Have you ever lied? Or stolen? Or cheated? If you answer "yes" to any
> of these, then you have sinned. Now honestly, can you see sin and God
> in the same room?"

This would be the same God that killed every living thing on Earth
(except for a tiny boat) in the flood? The same God who let Satan
torment Lot on a bet? The same God who admits to be the source of
evil? That God? Debbie, he's not just in the same room with evil..
he owns the bloody factory.

Or would, if any of it was true.


So now, at the end of the month, we all vote. The winner gets a shiny plaque from the Evil Atheist Conspiracy (which does not, of course, exist.)

[identity profile] meowse.livejournal.com 2003-11-10 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Mumble. I's a Christian. I's also a scientist. These two perspectives are rarely in conflict.

When there exists a perfectly adequate explanation (http://www.nationalgeographic.com/blacksea/) for the prevalence of flood myths in middle-eastern primitive cultures, actual geological evidence of something which would indeed have seemed to the people of the time like a "drowns the whole world" flood...I can't imagine why any sane and/or rational (either one should suffice) Christian would continue to hold to a literal "the earth was covered with water to a uniform depth of at least 29,035 feet" flood.

*sigh*

I don't have any problem picturing God saying to Noah, "Make yourself a big frikkin boat, and put all your farm animals in it. No, really. I know you're 150 feet above lake level. I know it *never* floods this high. Just...work with me here, Noah." And Noah, he says, "Sure, God, whatever you say, man..."

And then wham, down comes the land bridge, and in comes the Mediterranean, and when they write it down? "God drowned the whole damn world, no, we mean it, the whole damn thing, every city we knew about, every city we ever *heard* of, all underwater. Fear tha' big God!"

This is not rocket science, people. Then again, these days rocket science isn't rocket science. But I digress.

Just...arguing about the size of the ark, when it's obvious where the story came from...*sigh*

[identity profile] gridlore.livejournal.com 2003-11-11 07:45 am (UTC)(link)
Yup. The Black Sea flood is an excellent candidate for the basis of the Genesis flood. The survivors reach Mesopotamia saying "The Gods destroyed our entire way of life!" Over the generations, it goes to be the entire world, and rafts of farm animals become two of every species.

Just to be clear, I don't have a problem with religion or religious people in general. It's the certain brand of theist (usually Christian) that we get in a.a. who can't understand that a lot of what is written is myth, or allegorical, and insist that every single word is literal fact. They invade our safe little NG, and act like idiots. So we treat them like idiots.

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