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Douglas Berry ([personal profile] gridlore) wrote2009-05-12 06:51 pm
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Mmmm.. goths in space....

I've always had a soft spot in my heart for the Warhammer 40K universe. It is wonderfully dark and filled with gothic horror. An undying Emperor strapped into a life-support system/throne so his psychic powers can guide starships? Solemn orders of warrior monks in powered armor? Legions of enemies both brutal and cunning? It has it all!

Alas, except for some homebrew systems and halfhearted GURPS adaptations, it was all in support of miniature gaming. But now, that has changed.

I hold in my hands (OK, it's sitting next to me while I type) the first WH40K RPG: Dark Heresy. The characters are Acolytes in the Imperial Inquisition. Under the guidance of an Inquisitor, they are dispatched to hunt down the foul stench of heresy, the vile influence of aliens, and the twisted machinations of Chaos. The war never ends, and vigilance must be eternal.

This looks good. more detailed review when I've had a chance to read it in depth.

But space goths!!! C'mon!

[identity profile] dalen-talas.livejournal.com 2009-05-13 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
Dude, I fething love the techpriests in that book. *wants*

[identity profile] cmdr-zoom.livejournal.com 2009-05-13 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
It is worth noting that I only found any appeal in that setting when they finally introduced the Tau, specifically to be less GRIMDARK. Your mileage may definitely vary.

[identity profile] caraig.livejournal.com 2009-05-13 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
And apparently, they have put enough ambiguity into the Tau to make them GRIMDARK. The possibility that 'the greater good' is actually some sort of pheremone/telepathic supersuggestion by the Ethereals which thus controls the entire race. They couldn't leave well enough alone....

That being said, I find the 40K setting fascinating for the sheer corpus of work that's been done for it, and the complexity of the more subtle things going on.

[identity profile] dalen-talas.livejournal.com 2009-05-13 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
That, and the fact that many planets get issued "Join us or be nuked from orbit by the Air Caste" ultimatums.

OTOH, you gotta love the expression Ciaphas Cain coined: "Purging the heretics in the name of the greater good."

[identity profile] aurictech.livejournal.com 2009-05-13 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
Under the guidance of an Inquisitor, they are dispatched to hunt down the foul stench of heresy, the vile influence of aliens, and the twisted machinations of Chaos. The war never ends, and vigilance must be eternal.

Sounds familiar:

"Stay Alert! Trust No One! Keep Your Lasers Handy! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranoia_(role-playing_game))"

[identity profile] dalen-talas.livejournal.com 2009-05-13 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
Have that. Want to run it.

[identity profile] gridlore.livejournal.com 2009-05-13 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, the parallels occurred to me as soon as I read the description. I think, with some work, you could even adapt some Paranoia scenarios to Dark Heresy for a change of pace.

The difference is in DH the threats are very real.

[identity profile] aurictech.livejournal.com 2009-05-14 03:54 am (UTC)(link)
The difference is in DH the threats are very real.

Oh, the threats are very real in both settings. The difference is that the Dark Heresy setting has a credible external threat. The primary threat in Paranoia is from one's fellow Troubleshooters....

[identity profile] bunyip.livejournal.com 2009-05-13 02:55 am (UTC)(link)
That sounds like fun

By the way...

[identity profile] dalen-talas.livejournal.com 2009-05-13 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
How's that for a plot idea? (http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Looted_Emperor)

[identity profile] stevegreen.livejournal.com 2009-05-17 12:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Never played it myself, but I know Ian Watson, who wrote several books in that universe and seemed to enjoy the experience.