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Douglas Berry ([personal profile] gridlore) wrote2006-08-11 08:40 pm
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So, terrorists were just going to whip up some handy-dandy explosives?

Not so fast. Instant explosives from household chemicals are found only in old tapes of MacGuvyer, as this excellent blog points out in some detail.

Thanks to the [livejournal.com profile] mdlbear for the link.

Actually, it's quite easy,

[identity profile] capplor.livejournal.com 2006-08-12 05:18 am (UTC)(link)
speaking professionally, to mix commonly available ingredients into a bomb. It's called ANFO (Ammonium Nitrate, i.e. common fertilizer, and Fuel Oil). The catch is that it will NOT be something that's particularly impressive in quantities that one person could carry without being obvious.
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[personal profile] mdlbear 2006-08-12 05:53 am (UTC)(link)
As [livejournal.com profile] capplor points out, there are some explosives you can make from common ingredients -- it's just that the one that the media has latched onto isn't one of them.

If there really is peroxide in the mix, I'd guess that the solid ingredient is a powdered fuel of some sort. Otherwise, I would have expected something like ammonium nitrate and fuel oil.
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Re: Actually, it's quite easy,

[personal profile] mdlbear 2006-08-12 05:53 am (UTC)(link)
Wouldn't take all that much.

The explosive of choice, with truck bombs, I believe

[identity profile] capplor.livejournal.com 2006-08-12 06:23 am (UTC)(link)
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[personal profile] kengr 2006-08-12 07:10 am (UTC)(link)
Ethyl nitrate is another possibility. And it's apt to be just as tricky to make in practice.

BTW, my thought from the start about the ban was that for anything in a *beverage* container, making the person take a swig is all the testing you really need.

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Re: The explosive of choice, with truck bombs, I believe

[personal profile] mdlbear 2006-08-12 03:09 pm (UTC)(link)
exactly. Though according to Wikipedia (not always a reliable source) the one used in Oklahoma City was ammonium nitrate and nitrobenzene, which roughly doubles the yield.
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[personal profile] mdlbear 2006-08-12 03:09 pm (UTC)(link)
It was apparently going to be transported in soft drink bottles with false bottoms.