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Douglas Berry ([personal profile] gridlore) wrote2002-08-25 10:02 am

I had an idea last night.

As everyone knows, we are fast approaching the first anniversary of the September 11th attacks. Everyone is discussing how the best memorialize the event, and the people lost. Here's my two cents.

A day of silence on the Internet. For one calendar day, starting at 0001 11 SEP 02, your local time, stop posting, emailing, surfing whatever. A global day of silence moving around the world. I realize that this would be impossible for those in business who rely on the net, but I think it would be a powerful statement. I remember on that day the messages on the Traveller Mailing List to our NYC members asking "are you ok?" And I know the terrible silence when one person never replies to those calls.

So for one day, stay off the net. It will survive. talk on the phone, go for a walk, or just remember how much we all lost on the terrible day, one year ago.

[identity profile] bookofnights.livejournal.com 2002-08-25 10:57 am (UTC)(link)
I love this idea. It's one of the few that I can do and mean it. (Not like the "wear red, white, and blue" idea that's going around at work.)

Thank you. This is very meaningful to me.

[identity profile] poopsmoothie.livejournal.com 2002-08-25 11:14 am (UTC)(link)
I like this idea.

[identity profile] branwynelf.livejournal.com 2002-08-25 11:17 am (UTC)(link)
Actually I don't like this idea. While I understand the concept, I find that as the day approaches, it's more important to me than ever to connect with those I love. To share with them, because 9/11 was a horrible reminder of how everything can change in a heartbeat, how people can be taken away from you, and how lack of communication can be scarier than seeing video footage of planes flying into buildings full of people.

Besides, who are we sending a powerful statement to? To bin-Laden? To say what?

I think it is more important on that day that friends and loved ones stay in touch - through whatever medium works - to remind them they are in our minds and in our hearts.
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[identity profile] technoshaman.livejournal.com 2002-08-25 11:31 am (UTC)(link)
I'm with that. What we need to do is forget the date. And remember the lessons.

Kinda like an old Johnny Cash song, "San Quentin"...

May all the world forget you ever stood.
And may all the world regret you did no good.


Only different. The prison has been built around us while we stood here, by our supposed fellow citizens.

'Song has been waiting for the rant. I think it's time I gave it to y'all. Go check my journal in a bit....
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Nothing bad should ever happen on anyone's birthday.

[personal profile] azurelunatic 2002-08-25 12:41 pm (UTC)(link)
My nephew's birthday is September 11. There's no chance of that date being forgotten by this household.

Does anyone remember the day when the Chinese army ran over protesting students with tanks? I do. That was my birthday.

It's horrible when some disaster or act of war can make people blank out at the nice things in life, like birthdays and anniversaries and weddings and graduations and holidays that are there for the happiness of it.

Unfortunately, with the confusion over what to call the incident at first (accident, act of war, act of terrorism, bloody major fuckup) and the initial confusion over whodunit and why (no one was exactly waving flags), I think that the date has stuck in people's minds as the name of the event.

[identity profile] grittynoir.livejournal.com 2002-08-25 12:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree.

And anyone who uses Johnny Cash to illustrate a point is A-OK in my book.

[identity profile] gridlore.livejournal.com 2002-08-25 01:26 pm (UTC)(link)
It isn't a statement to anyone. As far as I am concern, Osama bin-Laden (assuming he's alive can keep hiding for the next 20 years. I think having his pet government bombed out of existence in two weeks was enough of a statement.

This is a memorial. A way for netizens to acknowledge that a lot of people died that day.

[identity profile] gridlore.livejournal.com 2002-08-25 01:30 pm (UTC)(link)
What we need to do is forget the date.

July 4th, 1776. November 11th, 1918. December 7th, 1941. September 11th, 2001.

Dates stick. Just like my mom can remember exactly where she was when JFK was shot, and my father could describe vividly everthing that happened in the early morning hours of June 6th, 1944, we are always going to retain the vivd memories of 9/11.

(Anonymous) 2002-08-25 01:32 pm (UTC)(link)
It's been done already to some extent .. there was something like this among webloggers awhile ago, though I don't recall the reason behind it.

Don't change your normal habits

[identity profile] shareinnc.livejournal.com 2002-08-25 01:46 pm (UTC)(link)
While I am all for a moment of rememberence of those who died that day, the worst thing we can do is alter our normal activities. Disruption is the coin of terrorism. It is what they get from their acts. Don't allow them to win. Keep to your regular schedule. Say a prayer for your family and friends and our military men and women, but do what you always do on that day even more than any other.

[identity profile] branwynelf.livejournal.com 2002-08-25 02:05 pm (UTC)(link)
The original post said that it would be a powerful statement, so I was questioning a statement to what and to who. That's all.
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[personal profile] kiya 2002-08-25 02:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Last September, I remember watching several newsgroups reach out to their members, the news of people being all right spreading out as fast as anyone could get the news. I remember watching people talking to someone who, it was eventually determined, lost a partner, providing that person with a space to not be alone.

I remember being unable to get a message to my father (who sometimes works in the Pentagon) on the phone, but I got an email through to him.

I remember being able to get in touch with my loved ones at last, to confirm that they were there. I remember being able to make contact with other people, if only in a telnet window.

The people I love and I stay in touch through the internet; the people I'm close to the same.

I think that cutting myself off from my family and spending the day alone may be a memorial, but is much more likely to simply be a trauma.

[identity profile] soldiergrrrl.livejournal.com 2002-08-25 03:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with Doug. I'll be off the net, but I'll be calling my family and friends to connect with them that way. I'll be looking at the folx in my unit that just came back from Afghanistan, and thanking the PTB that they made it home. I'll be calling my SO and thanking the PTB that *he* made it home from Afghanistan, too.

In the suggestion, Doug never said to spend the day in isolation, but to reach out to family and friends in other ways.

[identity profile] flashfire.livejournal.com 2002-08-25 03:24 pm (UTC)(link)
While I understand your intent behind this and the reasoning as well, I do not plan on changing my routine simply to make a statement. I believe going about my life the way I normally do makes a bigger one, and I also plan to write something on 9/11/02 as well. I would not be able to do this if I observed a day-long silence.

A moment of silence? Certainly.

[identity profile] hepkitten.livejournal.com 2002-08-25 05:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry, but I think this is the most idiotic idea I have heard yet. Why don't people volunteer? Help out at your local soup kitchen? Donate time to the SPCA? Become a Big Brother or Big Sister? Do something worthwhile with their time? Instead you are advising people to not write down what they feel, not talk to loved ones far away (one of my closest friends lives in Kuwait, do you have any idea how much it costs to *call* there?), not gather online to remember people they lost, or offer support to those that lost people, not read words of encouragement, words of remembrance, words to help bear lingering pain. I realize that for some people, this might seem like a good idea. But I talk to almost all of my friends and loved ones online. It lets me multitask and talk to several people at once. I don't believe in phones, so it lets me communicate with others without having to travel long distances to see them. It allows me to keep in touch with friends who would otherwise fall by the wayside due to my poor communications skills using other means.

Seriously. Instead of an "Internet Day Of Silence" which won't really have an affect on anyone and won't change anything, why doesn't everyone who can volunteer? That way, not only are you remembering 9/11, but you are also giving back to your community, and helping create a permanent remembrance and effect. I for one, will be volunteering helping out dorkbot (www.dorkbot.com) and at my local SPCA.

[identity profile] figmo.livejournal.com 2002-08-25 05:36 pm (UTC)(link)
No can do. That's my livelihood.

[identity profile] lokiz-mom.livejournal.com 2002-08-25 05:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Doug i think this is a great idea. if we all get out and meet with our families and neighbors, then we will all feel safe (IMHO). i can't say that i'll be able to be off the net completely for one day, but perhaps i'll go to the beach and pray for those who lost their lives. eventhough i'll be facing west instead of east, it's the thought that counts right??? ::hugz:: bravo bro!!!

[identity profile] fimbrethil.livejournal.com 2002-08-25 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
My husband, who was my partner, lover, friend and breadwinner died that day. As I am surviving with that loss, couldn't you stand the loss of one day which could easily be made up with longer hours on other days? It's not that big a sacrifice in the scheme of things.

[identity profile] fimbrethil.livejournal.com 2002-08-25 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree and I will let my friends know to call me instead to see how this family is doing that day. Make sure I have your number before then please so I may touch base with you. Good idea.

thinking I will be on the NO side of this one.

[personal profile] chiefted 2002-08-25 08:32 pm (UTC)(link)
From the sorta cheap seats here. I will be using the net that day in much the same way I did a year ok. Working. Last year it was boxing radios to go on a moment notice. Watching and updating the two O6s (Capts) I work for on what is going on, what are we doing. This is not the day to remain silent. This is a day to connect with one another.

One of my loves could have lost someone that day, her love in NYC. The only way to talk to him on that day was on the computer, via the internet. She opened a line to her mum too. As the calls came in from others in the area they were on the phone checking, praying that the phone would be answered.

So in much the same way of defiance as when her and I were standing on her balcony on the 13th of Sept and she and I looked up and saw a plane about to land at the airport, she yelled through tears streaming down her face...you bastards haven't won. I will use the net in the same way....they haven't won, I will remember the other life savers who gave thier lives so others may live.

[identity profile] voltbang.livejournal.com 2002-08-25 09:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry, count me in the not only no but hell no camp. Osama Bin Ladin wants to disrupt my life. He will not. He prevented his peopel form using the internet, because it represents a free flow of information that he just can't abide. I will use it, and I will make a point of using it in ways he hates. I'll talk to people of differing faiths and creeds. I'll talk to people of differing sexualities. I will look at images he finds sinful. I will exercise my first ammendment rights to free religion and free speech, two right he hates. And if he doesn't like it, he can come talk to me and I'll show him what other rights I like to exercise. Or he can hide in his cave and pray for a dialysis machine.

[identity profile] feroluce.livejournal.com 2002-08-25 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
i think you get the point exactly. it isn't to isolate and remove yourself, it's to force you to get in touch by more intimate means. i think it's a great idea :) i think i'll walk over to my grandma's for lunch that day.

[identity profile] feroluce.livejournal.com 2002-08-25 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
even as i agreed the first time that this is a great idea, i didnt even think of that logic. that's the best reason i've heard yet, thank you for sharing.

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/crossfire_/ 2002-08-26 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure what I'll do on September 11...but I'm pretty sure I won't be able to remain silent.

To me, communication in any medium is very important. I recognize that silence is, in and of itself, a form of communication, but I think I'll have more to communicate than silence can do for me.

[identity profile] figmo.livejournal.com 2002-08-26 04:36 am (UTC)(link)
I am very sorry you lost your husband that day. Words cannot describe the suckage of what happened.

However, I am already losing one day that week to go to Sacramento with my boyfriend to see a neurosurgeon (he needs brain surgery). I will therefore already be working extra hours the other days.

The nature of my work is such that I use the Internet for it. My day job is a technical writer at a startup, and I document software that uses the Internet. I not only cannot afford to work less than 40 hours/week, I have to work a second job (and take extra hours whenever they're thrown at me, no matter how sick I am) to make ends meet.

One or five minutes of Internet silence would be one thing; a day of it is a financial hit I cannot afford to take.

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